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Uvedomuji si ze je to 100% "Jedna pani rikala" a nemam tuto informaci VUBEC podlezenou ale po rozhovoru vcera s velmi "senior" pracovnik marketingoveho oddeleni Qatar mi potvrdil ze Praha proste je v planu a ze posledni "research" dodal zajimava cisla. Pocatek by byla linka jako to delaji jinde... A-320 a pak se uvidi jak se lince dari.

opet.. nemam zadna fakta ale kdyby to byo pravda tak snad uvidime i QR

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Qatar Airways CEO Hits Back At Comments Made By Association Of European Airlines Secretary General Over Dramatic Rise Of Gulf Carriers
Akbar Al Baker Slams Remarks Made At Aviation Gathering In Washington DC
10 February 2011


Doha, QATAR – Qatar Airways Chief Executive Officer Akbar Al Baker today hit back at comments made by the Secretary General of the Association of European Airlines about the dramatic rise of Gulf carriers and their impact on the global aviation industry.

The boss of the Doha-based carrier said comments made by Ulrich Schulte-Strathaus at a recent gathering of the International Aviation Club in Washington DC were “factually incorrect and unfounded”.

Al Baker said: “I recently came across the remarks made by a colleague of ours, Mr Schulte-Strathaus, Secretary General of the Association of European Airlines, about how global competition needs to be addressed by the International Civil Aviation Organisation, similar to what the industry is calling for in the domain of the environment.

“Mr. Schulte-Strathaus focused on the competitive pressure that airlines from the Gulf are posing on their counterparts elsewhere. Usually I would choose not to comment directly on calls to find ways to limit the growth of the Gulf carriers, including Qatar Airways.

“However, because Mr. Schulte-Strathaus chose to address one of the august forums of aviation visionaries in the world, I thought I needed to put the record straight. Mr. Schulte-Strathaus in his remarks included a number of “facts” which I beg to disagree with. The so-called facts that he alluded to were as follows:

The geographical proximity of Doha, Dubai, and Abu Dhabi gives rise to an anomaly in aviation. The fact of the matter is that it is quite common to have a multitude of hubs in close proximity: Singapore and Kuala Lumpur; Paris, Amsterdam, and London; Frankfurt, Zurich, and Vienna; the airports of New York and so on.
Therefore, having three major hubs within a 280 miles radius is not a novelty in aviation.

Mr. Schulte-Strathaus raises the issue that the governments of the UAE and Qatar consider the airlines of the Gulf as part of national strategy and as a “tool of a vertically integrated economic chain”. Again, he is trying to highlight a norm rather than an anomaly in the current geopolitical structure.
I would like to pose a question to Mr. Schulte-Strathaus: Can he tell me of any country of the world which does not consider its air transport industry, be that an individual airline or a multitude of them, as part of national interests? Was it not the case that the US government provided its airlines with cash outlays and tax breaks, as well as war insurance subsidies after September 11 in order to ensure the continuity of the US air transport industry? Is it not the case even further that the position of the US has consistently been to preserve the national identity and ownership of the US airlines? And on the other side of the Atlantic, doesn’t Mr. Schulte-Strathaus consider the billions of Euros that are allowed under the EU laws to pump into airlines for “restructuring purposes” as a manifestation of the strategic national interest in supporting national airlines and what they represent economically and socially?

Doesn’t Mr. Schulte-Strathaus consider the control over the overwhelming majority of slots in a highly congested region as a lopsided support to national airlines against new entrants including airlines who are coming from airports where European airlines can operate freely without any reciprocity in terms of slots quality?

Mr. Schulte-Strathaus is comparing the aircraft order book of Gulf airlines with that of the US carriers in the long-haul wide body arena as if those airlines plan to dump capacity. The comparison itself is extremely erroneous! The backbone of the US air transport industry is domestic operations. The portion of the capacity deployed internationally as a ratio of the total capacity deployed by the US airlines is minimal. Of course, geography and population spread requires such a structure.
The airlines of the Gulf operate from small countries and they are operating regionally in an area which is 3 times the size of the US, and internationally with a network that stretches across the globe. We operate with the minimum cost per seat mile in mind. We operate with the minimum environmental footprint in mind as well. The average age of our fleet is around 5 years only. We do not keep airplanes operating for 20 to 30 years. Therefore, you will find that in order to maintain the lowest cost in seat mile, and the greatest appeal to customers, our order book is higher than elsewhere because we maintain a young fleet.

This is not a new strategy. It has been applied extremely successfully by the airlines of the Asia Pacific. Asian airlines have almost the same fleet age and a comparable unit cost. Furthermore, some Asian airlines are still owned by governments and they are definitely part of the national interests of their countries. Yet, we do not see Mr. Schulte-Strathaus signalling them as part of the threat to the future of the aviation industry.


Mr. Schulte-Strathaus goes further in saying that two of the Gulf airlines have never made a profit. First of all, I would like to ask him how does he know that since Etihad Airways and Qatar Airways are not publishing their financial reports as yet? But from the principle standpoint: If profit was the only reason why airlines buy airplanes, as he is insinuating, then the net result of buying new airplanes in this whole industry should have been negative during the last decade.


The crux of the matter in what Mr. Schulte-Strathaus is saying lies in his remark that “these (Gulf) airlines are efficient, they have extremely low unit cost yet deliver consistently high service quality. They have clarity of vision and decisiveness of action. They also have the full and enthusiastic support of their domestic political institutions.” I couldn’t say that better! Is it a mistake to be efficient and to have a low unit cost? Is it wrong from governments to be supportive to their national interests? Is Mr. Schulte-Strathaus advocating that airlines which have high unit cost and do not deliver consistently high service quality should be protected from efficient low cost and high service airlines?


Mr. Schulte-Strathaus is saying that we are driven by a “policy which is not compatible with that of the US, Europe, Australia, China, Canada, and so on.”

I’m really lost here! Most of these governments are signatories of the Agenda for Freedom brokered by IATA, which calls for free market access. In fact, even the Director General of IATA, Mr. Giovanni Bisignani, recently called upon the Canadian government to respect the liberal market access principle and avoid protectionism. Does Mr. Schulte-Strathaus advocate that this policy of liberalisation should only apply when his member airlines are the beneficiaries and not vice-versa?


Mr. Schulte-Strathaus is requesting governments to prevent additional market access in the short term! Perhaps Mr. Schulte-Strathaus should also ask governments to forego liberalisation policies, deregulation and why not foregoing market economy and resort to protectionism, inefficiencies, cartel price fixing, and anti-consumer behaviour. Where would protectionism end if his calls are heeded by the governments? Isn’t it the right of any consumer to get access to the best prices and the best value for money?


Finally, we have no problem whatsoever for ICAO to create a multilateral system along the lines of how the World Trade Organisation handles free trade. I would go even further: Why won’t we apply the WTO principles on aviation to ensure that first and foremost the rights of the consumers and free competition apply across the board?

If Europe is not investing enough in aviation infrastructure, and if Europe had developed a cost base which is becoming burdensome on some of its old establishments, and if Europe is not addressing the cost of its social safety-net in a way which maintains a competitive posture for its airlines, should then the European consumer be penalised by depriving him from cost efficient aviation services? And where does this protectionism end? Would the next target be the European low cost carriers because they managed to provide competitive services to the members of AEA? I believe the answer is clear.

The European airlines were pioneers in a large number of areas. We in the Gulf airlines community have learnt a lot from them. They should accept competition and that the customer being in the driver’s seat.



Notes to Editors

Qatar Airways is one of the world’s fastest growing airlines. Following its re-launch in 1997, the Doha-based carrier currently flies a modern fleet of 94 aircraft to 98 key business and leisure destinations across Europe, Middle East, Africa, Asia Pacific and North and South America. Its fleet size will surpass 120 aircraft by 2013, by which time the global network will top 120 destinations.

Qatar Airways has ordered 80 Airbus A350s, 24 Airbus A320 Family aircraft, 60 Boeing 787s and 32 Boeing 777s, with deliveries of the latter having started in November 2007. The airline is one of the customers of the twin-deck Airbus A380 ‘super jumbos’ with five on order and scheduled for delivery from 2012, by which time the New Doha International Airport is scheduled to open.

At the 2010 Skytrax World Airline Awards, Qatar Airways was awarded World’s Best Business Class, Best Airline in the Middle East for the fifth consecutive year, World’s Best Business Class Catering, and the Staff Service Excellence Award for the Middle East. The awards are compiled from results of the annual Skytrax passenger survey in which almost 18 million travellers were polled over a 10-month period. For more information, log onto www.qatarairways.com.


For further information

Qatar Airways Corporate Communications
Tel: +974 44496956, Fax: +974 44620132
E-mail: qrmedia@qatarairways.com.qa

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tl;dr

nebylo by shrnuti? Zatim jsem vycet jen to, ze se CEO Qataru vyjadruje k tomu, jak se nekdo vyjadril o "abnormalnim" vzestupu gulf carriers. Je tam jeste neco duleziteho?

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Dnes som si kupil letenku cez oficialnu Qatar Airways stranku. Prislo mi na mail potvrdenie, mam to v blokovanych polozkach, cize by malo byt vsetko OK. Ale skusil som mrknut do "my bookings" a tam je napisane, ze let "tam" je zruseny. Som asi 30 min. po kupeni letenky, naco to potom inzeruju, ked je to uz hned zrusene? Stalo sa to uz niekomu?


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Právě čtu, že Qatar zvyšuje frekvence do Budapešti a bude nově létat i do Sofie.
To mají tyto destinace ve srovnání s Prahou takový potenciál?
Nebo je zatím jen neschopnost managementu pražského letiště?

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Jakýpak potenciál? Qatar, Emirates a Etihad jsou feedujou do svých hubů, aby rozváželi do celé Asie a Oceánie...je to logický krok, rozhodně bych se nebavil o tom, že mají nějaký potenciál, protože každá destinace ho má, pokud jde o tuto asijskou trojku. Jen ten rozdíl je, že k nám létá z Dubaje A 330-200 (270 míst) denně a chystá se rozšíření na 773(340? míst), do Budapešti bude létat nově létat denně Qatar, ale 320 (140 míst?), a SOF a OTP se budou dělit o 4 frekvence a opět 320.
Potenciál tyto linky mít budou, myslím, že dojde i na LJU,ZAG,BEG,WAW,RIX atd...., ale nemyslím si, i s ohledem na PRG, že by někdy došlo k tomu, že budou létat dva či dokonce tři dopravci

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Qatar ma snadnejsi moznost zavadet nove trhy jelikoz maji A320... Budapest a Sofia a Bucharest nemaji nikoho kdo by nabidl zajimave ceny do Asie a i tam roste turismus... takze Qatar ma jakysi dobrou pozici..

Prazska denni linka s A330 je dostatecna a vsichni jsme prekvapeni ze se lince dari (tedy hodne skeptiku kteri denni linku s widebody vyloucili) a kdyz opavdu zmeni typ na B777 tak bezva :))))) k tomu Korejci a myslim ze Praha ma silne prvenstvi ve regionu (ne VIE)...

Ja bych se nedivil : Qatar linka do PRG pocatecne s A320... Jinak myslim si ze ted na rade do Prahy by mela byt spolecnost s main land China (CZ/MU?) ci Vietnam (VN)? porad se i mluvi o Kuala Lumpur... snad... rad uslysim dobre news

lepe pro nas... konkurence a ceny letenek.... a QR se opravdu snazi. A nezapomenme ze nedavno informace ohledne QR a PRG byly otevrene hlaseny na internetu (2009?) a docela se s tim i pocitalo az na tom sokujici informace ze dne na den a pristalo EK na Ruzyni... a udelaly dobre:) pry se jim to dobre vyplaci

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@fabo
Nic dalsiho zajimaveho na tom jiz neni. Sef AEA - Mr. Ulrich Schulte-Strathaus, telem i dusi Lufthansa man, se ohradil proti tomu, co Lufthansa, British a hlavne KLM dela ji dlouhou dobu - vozi hodne transferovych cestujicich. EK, EY, QR to dovedli do vyssiho stadia a vozi temer vyhradne transferove cestujici. Nemecko je prvni z evropskych zemi, kdo se vuci tomu zacina ohrazovat. Dosud to bylo pro ne vyhodne, tak to podporovali, nyni to zacina nekdo jiny delat uspesneji nez oni, tak se jim to prestava libit. Jde o penize a to vse ostatni okolo je pouze omacka.

@beedat
Nemyslim si, ze jde o neschopnost prazskeho letiste. QR zvazovali PRG, ale EK byly rychlejsi a razantnejsi. Spustili 7xtydne s A330, cili defacto nedali nikomu jinemu sanci. Ted zjistili, to co zjistit museli a sice, ze PRG byla trefa do cerneho a zvysi kapacitu. QR proto pridali na tempu a honem spustili BUD via BUH, nyni daji BUD primo a BUH spoji nove s SOF. BUH, SOF a ani BUD nemaji potencial Prahy, takze to maji vlastne dobre rozdelene - PRG velkym widebody, ostatni 320.

P.S. Na zacatku jsme zminil, ze LH, BA a KL tuto obchodni politiku jiz dela dlouho. Zajimave je, ze Emirates ridi Britove, VP-Commercial Qatar Airways je pro zmenu dlouholety zamestnanec KLM. Jenom Lufthansa tam jeste neni zastoupena. Ze by se Mr. Ulrich Schulte-Strathaus zviditelnoval pro dalsi pusobeni po Secretary General, AEA?

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já si myslim, že se Qataru v PRG dočkáme, v případě že linka Emirates bude úspěšná a já myslim, že úspěšná je už ted, tak by mě velice překvapilo, kdyby nepřišel nikdo další a Emirates tu zůstal v podstatě monopol.

Ale stejně jako MS743 si myslím, že momentálně by to chtělo spíš nějakou tu Čínu :wink:

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Asi OT ale cisla mezi Prahou a Cinou jsou velice zajimave a myslim si ze se dockame a dosti brzy.... Skoda ze ten Korean nema zadnou vahu (tedy OK a KE a jejich prodej z PRG dal do sveta.... Csa mohla mit virtualni linky do Japonska, Thajska atd..... ale na metal KE)

Qatar ci Etihad by mohl mit zajem trochu popichovat EK a prebrat jim cast cestujicich... vsechny tyto spolecnosti maji velikou sit linek a naplni tyto letadla denne do Prahy.... Kdyz napocitame celou Asii a Australii...takze lepe pro nas cestujici:) A320 neni zas takovy zalusk naplnit pro takove spolecnosti...

PRG to preji a lepe pro me... vice spolecnosti z blizkeho vychodu mi nabidne lepsi ceny pri mych cest do Prahy z Asie... zatim EK nejsou nejlevnejsi a zadne special rates pro PRG...spise jen opacnym smerem :sad:

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BlueSky píše:@fabo
Nic dalsiho zajimaveho na tom jiz neni. Sef AEA - Mr. Ulrich Schulte-Strathaus, telem i dusi Lufthansa man, se ohradil proti tomu, co Lufthansa, British a hlavne KLM dela ji dlouhou dobu - vozi hodne transferovych cestujicich. EK, EY, QR to dovedli do vyssiho stadia a vozi temer vyhradne transferove cestujici. Nemecko je prvni z evropskych zemi, kdo se vuci tomu zacina ohrazovat. Dosud to bylo pro ne vyhodne, tak to podporovali, nyni to zacina nekdo jiny delat uspesneji nez oni, tak se jim to prestava libit. Jde o penize a to vse ostatni okolo je pouze omacka.


Souhlas, EU a US dopravci ztraci konkurenceschopnost...Staci sledovat tady na foru, jak si vedou EU aerolinky ve vztahu k zakaznikum a opravdu se neni cemu divit.

Druha stranka je ze MEB aerolinky letaji na letadlech vyrobenych v EU nebo US, zamestnavaji lidi z EU nebo US, takze by se to dalo nazvat presun typicky globalniho businessu do priznivejsiho legislativniho nebo danoveho prostredi!

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Praha je pry stale a porad na seznamu Qatar Airways s lety 2012 ... zatim to asi nemhu rici jako fakt jelikoz zname jake to je kdyz "jedna pani rikala" ... velice rad se necham prekvapit...

bylo by to jen plus pro PRG....

Pro me osobne, Qatar a Etihad vyhravaji nad Emirates ... a proc? jednoduse nemusim letat pres Dubai coz je vetsinou utrpeni....

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MS743 píše:Pro me osobne, Qatar a Etihad vyhravaji nad Emirates ... a proc? jednoduse nemusim letat pres Dubai coz je vetsinou utrpeni....


Dokud neotevrou NDIA, tak i Doha bude docela utrpeni (prestoze Premium terminal ujde)

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Alca píše:ale nemyslím si, i s ohledem na PRG, že by někdy došlo k tomu, že budou létat dva či dokonce tři dopravci


to že jednou, podle mě brzo, budou Qatar lítat do PRG věřím... jednak mají objednané další A321, kdy si to budou moc vyzkoušet, druhak otevřením NDIA + plánují udělat nízkonákladovku budou mít dost kapacit letiště, kam kromě nich moc nikdo lítat nebude a za třetí neustále budou soutěžit s Emirates a Etihad a budou potřebovat další cestující...

letěl jsem snima do Colomba a byla to moje jedna z nejepších cest.. bohužel kvůli přestupu v Doze nejsou mezi favority


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