Miles & More

[pajoo]

Ahoj, asi dost lama otazka, tak vopred sorry , mam letenku s Air Dolomiti VIE-VRN s Business class v hodnote nejakych 200 EUR return (s pouzitim Edreams kuponu za nejakych 120 EUR), mam narok aj na vstup do salonika vo VIE a do ktoreho? Plus smerom tam mam triedu O a spat H, to za tu O nie su ziadne mile? Za H tam vidim na miles&more 2000 mil ale O sa tvari ako economy.. Dakujem za rady

[whiskey]

Ahoj, asi dost lama otazka, tak vopred sorry , mam letenku s Air Dolomiti VIE-VRN s Business class v hodnote nejakych 200 EUR return (s pouzitim Edreams kuponu za nejakych 120 EUR), mam narok aj na vstup do salonika vo VIE a do ktoreho? Plus smerom tam mam triedu O a spat H, to za tu O nie su ziadne mile? Za H tam vidim na miles&more 2000 mil ale O sa tvari ako economy.. Dakujem za rady

Pozri este raz, to H si videl spravne, ale O ti uslo a ano, je to economy:

Kód: Vybrat vše

International European flights
Economy class  GOQUVW  750

Salonik vo VIE ziaden, kedze mas Y letenku. Na ceste z VRN mozes pouzit tento salonik (z webu LH):

Kód: Vybrat vše

Contract lounge
Airport    Verona
Location    Terminal A, 1st floor, above the Lufthansa check-in area
Name    Catullo Lounge
Opening hours    5:30 am - 9:30 pm
Lounge features

    Non smoking lounge
    Restrooms
    Wireless network
    TV
    Local magazines and newspapers
    International magazines and newspapers
    German magazines and newspapers

[pajoo]

Tie triedy su prave naopak, tu je vypis z checkmytrip.com - ta trieda O a business je divna:

SERVICE FROM TO DEPART ARRIVE
-------------- ------------------- --------------------- -------- -------
AIR DOLOMITI - EN 8071
FRI 13APR VIENNA AT VERONA IT 1010 1145
VIENNA INTL VILLAFRANCA
NON STOP DURATION 1:35
NON SMOKING
RESERVATION CONFIRMED- H BUSINESS
ON BOARD: MEAL
EQUIPMENT:AEROSPATIALE/ALENIA ATR 72

SERVICE FROM TO DEPART ARRIVE
-------------- ------------------- --------------------- -------- -------
AIR DOLOMITI - EN 8074
MON 16APR VERONA IT VIENNA AT 1735 1910
VILLAFRANCA VIENNA INTL
NON STOP TERMINAL 1 DURATION 1:35
NON SMOKING
RESERVATION CONFIRMED- O BUSINESS
ON BOARD: MEAL
EQUIPMENT:AEROSPATIALE/ALENIA ATR 72

[kilgore]

"O" je u Star Alliance award trida na First class. Jestlize na tom letu zadna firstka neni, tak to bude jen business. Do salonku samozrejmne pristup je a to podle me dokonce do toho nejlepsiho, jakej na letisti vubec bude (jestli vubec nejakej . Je to prece jenom letenka ve first (award neaward). Jenom nevim, jak muze nekdo prodavat letenky v award tridach, ale asi to nejak jde.

"H" je jedna ze strednich economy trid. Pri tomhle letu zadny salonek nebude. Tedy pokud nemate alespon stribrnou kartu M&M.

H da za jeden let 750mil, O samozrejmne (protoze je to award) 0mil.

[kilgore]

"O" je u Star Alliance award trida na First class. Jestlize na tom letu zadna firstka neni, tak to bude jen business. Do salonku samozrejmne pristup je a to podle me dokonce do toho nejlepsiho, jakej na letisti vubec bude (jestli vubec nejakej . Je to prece jenom letenka ve first (award neaward). Jenom nevim, jak muze nekdo prodavat letenky v award tridach, ale asi to nejak jde.

"H" je jedna ze strednich economy trid. Pri tomhle letu zadny salonek nebude. Tedy pokud nemate alespon stribrnou kartu M&M.

H da za jeden let 750mil, O samozrejmne (protoze je to award) 0mil.

Omluvam se a beru zpet. Ja jsem nejak zvyklej ze Air Dolomiti litalo pro LH a tak jsem koukal na LH nebo AUA tridy. Ale ono je to cele jinak. H je business a O skutecne economy. Takze s H pristup do salonku snad bude, s O nikoliv. Za H by melo byt 2000mil, za 0 750mil.

[pajoo]

Som z toho zmateny, vzdy som si myslel ze ked mam raz na letenke napisene Business a na boarding passe "C" tak proste do toho salonika mozem... skusim este napisat mail na Air Dolomity nech sa vyjadria

[JanoS]

Od 30.9.2012 Lufthansa brutalne meni pravidla M&M.

Nejdulezitejsi zmeny:
Trida P (business) = 100% mil, nemoznost upgradu, zmena okamzite
Trida Z (business) = 150% mil, nemoznost upgradu
U Swissu budou upgrady mozny.

Kompletni zneni z VFT:
Adjustment to the qualification rule for HON Circle Members:
• In future HON Circle miles needed to achieve or renew HON Circle status can be earned solely on flights in First and Business Class.
• With effect from 1 September 2012, status and award miles will still be credited for Economy Class flights, but not HON Circle miles.

Change to the booking guarantee in Business Class for HON Circle Members:
• Effective from 1 September 2012, the HON Circle booking guarantee for Business Class will only apply in the highest booking class on each airline. On Austrian Airlines, Brussels Airlines, Lufthansa and SWISS, this is booking class J; on our airline partners Adria Airways, Croatia Airlines and LOT Polish Airlines, it is booking class C.
• The booking guarantee for Economy Class flights in booking class Y remains unchanged.

New rule for earning miles in Business booking class Z:
In future the miles earned in Business Class will be more closely aligned to the value of the ticket, as is already the case in Economy Class. Therefore the mileage credit in the lower-priced Business booking class Z is being amended for flights from 1 September as follows:
• 1,000 award, status and HON Circle miles on domestic flights (previously 1,500 miles)
• 1,250 miles on continental flights (previously 2,000 miles)
• 150% of the distance miles on intercontinental flights (previously 200%)

Introduction of the new Business booking class P:
The miles credited in the new, lowest-priced Business booking class P (exclusively for promotions) will be set as follows on its introduction in March:
• 500 award, status and HON Circle miles on domestic flights
• 750 miles on continental flights
• 100% of the distance miles on intercontinental flights
These mileage levels will also apply to Austrian Airlines flights with effect from 16 May 2012 and to SWISS flights with effect from 1 September 2012.

Upgrade awards from Business Class no longer available in booking classes Z and P:
• Upgrade awards from Business booking class Z to First Class will no longer be available on Lufthansa-operated flights effective from 1 September 2012. The same applies to the new Business booking class P on Lufthansa flights with immediate effect.
• On SWISS-operated flights, upgrade awards to First Class from Business booking classes Z and P will continue to be available. There will be an additional surcharge of 20,000 miles (currently: 15,000 miles) for these upgrades with effect from 1 September 2012.

In addition to these amendments, other changes to the Miles & More programme are as follows:
• Expansion of the one-way flight award offer: from 1 September 2012, one-way flight awards will be available to book on all Miles & More airline partners. For these, 50% of the miles for a regular flight award will be required. Also new: one-way flight awards will be bookable online at Miles & More - Miles & More | Europe's leading frequent flyer programme. This applies to flights on the following airlines: Adria Airways, Austrian Airlines, Brussels Airlines, Croatia Airlines, Condor, LOT Polish Airlines, Lufthansa and SWISS.
• Lowering of the Senator qualification threshold in Germany: the qualification threshold for customers living in Germany will be reduced from 130,000 miles to 100,000 miles within a calendar year. The mileage threshold in Germany will therefore correspond to the worldwide qualification requirement.
• Incentivisation of frequent-flying Senators: on reaching 300,000 HON Circle miles in the calendar years 2011 and 2012, Senators will receive two eVouchers for upgrades to the next highest travel class.

Provided no other statements are made, the changes mentioned apply to flights with Lufthansa and the fully-integrated Miles & More partner airlines (Adria Airways, Air Dolomiti, Austrian Airlines, Brussels Airlines, Croatia Airlines, LOT Polish Airlines, Luxair and SWISS).

[Night fly]

Pro mne celkem zadna zmena, pokud zaroven s timto nedojde i ke zmene tabulky cerpani awardu. Businessem vetsinou nelitam, a kdyz, tak ne s LH. Akorat bude jeste vetsi naval v saloncich ve FRA, protoze pribude SENatoru...

[whiskey]

nasrat...

[kilgore]

No, musim priznat, ze me ty zmeny jsou tak trochu jedno. Stejne si business vetsinou nemuzu dovolit

Ale zajima me jedna vec. Kde se vzalo tohle?

Expansion of the one-way flight award offer: from 1 September 2012, one-way flight awards will be available to book on all Miles & More airline partners. For these, 50% of the miles for a regular flight award will be required. Also new: one-way flight awards will be bookable online at Miles & More - Miles & More | Europe's leading frequent flyer programme. This applies to flights on the following airlines: Adria Airways, Austrian Airlines, Brussels Airlines,

Protoze jednosmerne awardy na vsech M&M partnerech mi prijdou jako velke zlepseni. Do ted to slo jen na integrovanych aerolinkach. Jakto, ze o tom na Flyertalku nikdo nemluvi? Odkud jsou tyhle podminky?

[whiskey]

No, musim priznat, ze me ty zmeny jsou tak trochu jedno. Stejne si business vetsinou nemuzu dovolit

Ale zajima me jedna vec. Kde se vzalo tohle?
Protoze jednosmerne awardy na vsech M&M partnerech mi prijdou jako velke zlepseni. Do ted to slo jen na integrovanych aerolinkach. Jakto, ze o tom na Flyertalku nikdo nemluvi? Odkud jsou tyhle podminky?

vsetci si zjavne myslia, ze sa to tyka integrovanych aeroliniek...
Najvacsi pruser z mojho pohladu je Z ako neupgradovatelny fare bucket (to bol pre mna okrem awardov v podstate jediny sposob ako lietat F), a samozrejme 150% zan a 100% za P. T.j. tento rok obhajim SEN do 2016 a konec pravdepodobne. Sukromne premiove longhauly budu asi bling podobne ako spominalo viacero ludi na FT, namiesto doterajsich special offers u LH/OS/LX, kedze som dovolenky planoval casto podla nich.

[JanoS]

No, musim priznat, ze me ty zmeny jsou tak trochu jedno. Stejne si business vetsinou nemuzu dovolit

Ale zajima me jedna vec. Kde se vzalo tohle?
Protoze jednosmerne awardy na vsech M&M partnerech mi prijdou jako velke zlepseni. Do ted to slo jen na integrovanych aerolinkach. Jakto, ze o tom na Flyertalku nikdo nemluvi? Odkud jsou tyhle podminky?

vsetci si zjavne myslia, ze sa to tyka integrovanych aeroliniek...
Najvacsi pruser z mojho pohladu je Z ako neupgradovatelny fare bucket (to bol pre mna okrem awardov v podstate jediny sposob ako lietat F), a samozrejme 150% zan a 100% za P. T.j. tento rok obhajim SEN do 2016 a konec pravdepodobne. Sukromne premiove longhauly budu asi bling podobne ako spominalo viacero ludi na FT, namiesto doterajsich special offers u LH/OS/LX, kedze som dovolenky planoval casto podla nich.

Nastastie je u Swissu Z&P upgradovatelne, aspon za mile s priplatkom. Dufam ze aj za evouchery, inak mi o rok nejake prepadnu
Kazdopadne namiesto Z+Z budem asi lietat B+D.

[fred]

I v roce 2012 je tu opet myChoice:
http://www.miles-and-more.com/online/po ... id=1000222
Stranka momentalne jeste nefunguje, takze snad pozdeji..

[whiskey]

I v roce 2012 je tu opet myChoice:
http://www.miles-and-more.com/online/po ... id=1000222
Stranka momentalne jeste nefunguje, takze snad pozdeji..

mne to funguje, len som nenasiel nikde moznost zvolit si, ci chcem award alebo status miles...

[Night fly]

I v roce 2012 je tu opet myChoice:
http://www.miles-and-more.com/online/po ... id=1000222
Stranka momentalne jeste nefunguje, takze snad pozdeji..

mne to funguje, len som nenasiel nikde moznost zvolit si, ci chcem award alebo status miles...

Ja dostavam po vyplneni udaju error message... A navic jako na svinu budu mit v dubnu 4 lety na myChoice trase, pricemz ta promo plati az od kvetna